The recession gen Y has to have?

Virginia Graham
Thursday, September 10, 2009
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Learning to live with less affluence is not as bad as it might seem, especially when it's pretty much the same story for everyone.
Virginia Graham
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According to McCrindle Research's Mark McCrindle, the global financial crisis was necessary for generation Y, which he describes as "the most materially endowed generation in history". He argues that the financial downturn was necessary for young people to learn how to cope with an era different from the only one they have ever known, a time of economic growth.

The problem is gen Y (those born 1980-1994) have little or no resources to help them find and keep jobs, realise they need to pay down debt — particularly credit card debt — save money and learn to live with less affluence.

It may not be fair to say gen Y had to have this happen to them, but the previous generations certainly knew times of far less affluence. But surely there could have been an easier way for gen Y to learn these lessons. Not all the generations born since World War II — boomers (those born 1946-64), X (those born 1965-79), Y and even Z (those born since 1995) — needed a recession to learn how to manage debt.

However, had property prices kept going up at the rate they were prior to the GFC, gen Y and even Z may never have been able to enter the property market. Now, with more stabilised property prices, if they save their money, pay off credit cards, they can possibly enter the market.

Of course, there is often a flipside, in this case it's that many banks have increased the minimum deposit they require and have done away with 100 percent home loans. The majority of lenders are now asking for at least a 10 percent deposit in Australia.

A bigger deposit really is the ideal scenario for all parties, but where that is not the case and an applicant is in stable employment with a good credit history, there is a way to enter the property market without the usual minimum of 10 percent deposit.

A select few lenders will accept a 5 percent deposit for a first home loan, as long as they are an existing customer (for at least six months) with good conduct on their accounts and can show a genuine saving history.

Learning to live with less affluence is not as bad as it might seem, especially when it's pretty much the same story for everyone. You might find that none of the VIP things you thought you needed really mattered as much as having a secure financial future.

Your say: Do you think the recession was necessary for gen Y? How have you dealt with the GFC? Share with us below...

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I have 3 gen Y kids. One of them told us at 11 years of age that he could divorce us and get money off CPS and move out if we disciplined him. That didn't just mean hitting his backside, it covered yelling at him or making him do chores! Yeah, that's the reason gen Y are such a selfish lot and a laughing stock. Selfish to the max, don't respect authority and are called the "cotton wool generation". I am generalising, and although there are indeed some teens that have a good work ethic and respect others, the majority don't give a tinker's cuss and squeal "gimme" constantly. Not that it works with me! So don't blame the parents, blame the do-gooders who have succeeded in hamstringing any realistic disciplinary procedures over the decades.
I have always thought the idea of forums are to express your own opinions on the topic listed - "Do you think the recession was necessary for gen Y? How have YOU dealt with the GFC? Share with us below..." not "let's all slam Dawn for her response" I see nothing wrong with what Dawn wrote. as much as you so called Gen Y's want to harp on about how fantastic you are because you don't live at home with your parents, Dawn does and she's lucky for that. The poor girl was simply sharing her story, and her experience just as you all have your own experiences. You could have shared to maybe help her out, not make her look like idiot which she is definitley not. comments like "poor litle rich girl" "she HAD to buy a new car".. how about "oh no i have a mortgage and 2 cars wah wah wah" !
To those of you who are still studying, give it up and get a real job!!! Australia is a resource rich country, so an arts degree is not going to help you in the real world. A couple of extra letters on the end of your name are not going to help pay the bills. My brother in law went to uni for 8 years, racked up a nice hec's debt, and is now working for $30,000 a year. At nearly 28 he is where I was when I was 16 except he's in debt. I on the other hand left school when I was 16, got a job, saved my money, moved country, bought a house, got married all before I was 22. For the same reason I did not go to uni, I did not do an apprenticeship, MONEY!!! Why go to uni, to get a degree, to earn big $$$$, when you can do the same as a labourer in the mines. Same with apprenticeships, why under value your labour? Most trades are learnt in a year, the other 3 are just a waste of time. I now earn $90k a year, debt free, big boat, 2 classic cars and not a piece of paper to my name!
Dawn, seriously, get real. What you are currently earning is what my partner and I live off BETWEEN US in a year. We pay a mortgage. We have two cars registered, maintained and roadworthy. We are 26 and have both not lived with our parents for 10 years. Screw the financial advisor, use your own brain.
Dawn embarrasses me as I'm a Gen-Y. Oh poor Dawn HAD to buy a brand new car cus hers was in an accident. Maybe you should've had your car insured? I've never owned a brand new car, and never will. My parents never had alot, and hence, neither did I. But somehow I've managed to work hard & get into a high paying job for someone with my age and qualifications (47k, yr 12) and theres room for advancement if I work hard enough. Which I think is what the majority of my gen don't want to do. I'm afraid for the future when I think about the work ethics of my friends! Most of them will rely on their parents giving them the house when they pass away in 40-odd years. Shameful.
There is so much criticism of Gen Y, I'm born in 1982, and I struggle to identify with this GEN Y that I am mean to be a part of. I know I'm also not alone here, I would say at least 50% of my friends born in the same year as me, identify alot more with Gen X than Gen Y. I've worked hard to get where I am in life, and some hard lessons were needed to be learnt along the way to get here. I have 2 beautiful children, a mortgage that we are well ahead on, a car that is almost paid off and we only bought it this year. I don't spend out of my means, I buy what I can afford and what is practical also. Now is everyone forgetting that this Generation did not raise themselves, their parents (the baby boomers) raised them, so perhaps there need to be some questions into the parenting skills of the baby boomers, for raising this generation, that everyone seems to complain about all the time....
To all of you seriously trying to save for your desired future endeavours, I suggest you obtain a copy of Paul Squires book "Wealthier than you think." Whilst it is not a "magic bullit" solution and may not appeal to everyone, I have managed to pull out several practical ways in which I can reduce my expenses and save at least some money. It is this book which I credit with helping me to save for and pay off my HECS debt completely and gives me the confidence that with hard work, disipline and a bit of financial strategising, that in time, I will achieve my personal financial goals no matter what life throws at me.
Sam, mate I totally agree with all of your comments regarding your mate who studied biomedical science, achieved first class honours and is reduced to cleaning jobs. I completed my business degree in November of last year and as of yet am still to secure a full time job. I didn't achieve first class honours during my degree but achieved almost a 75% average throught my degree, which I feel is an achievement. For the last 11 months I have worked practically full time as a kitchenhand (my job to get me thru uni & tafe financially) just to keep my head above water. I am previliged to live at home where at least I pay less in rent than I would if I were living out of home and am saving the difference. Whilst I understand that this year has been tough for many grads (as well as all those who get retrenched due to the Financial crisis) it is frustrating when your job applications get knocked back becuase you don't have experience. To all employers out there, give us recent grads a break!
i think its hilarous you Gen Y morons never thought the bubble would burst. a year ago you would brag about your non commital lifestyle and attitude towards amployers, now look who's heads on the chopping block! Nothing is free, credit must be reapid and most bosses will reward hard work in the long run. Gen Y was never in it for the long run, just themselves. But hey, at least you will look good in your next interview, just cross your fingers they dont ask for your experience....you wont have any. hope your fancy acronyms will help....
II am a gen Y and I am sick of Gen Y complaining about hecs debt (lucky to have the chance I say) or complaining about 'it’s hard to find a casual job'. What a load of bullocks, I am Gen Y, I paid for my degree up front by working 2 full time jobs then I continued working full time while I studied. I worked hard to get what I want. My generation has no clue what hard work is. We (gen y with high work ethics) are in the minority, all you whinging brats sicken me. I never relied on a recruitment agency to get a job. Everything I have I did on my own and I am proud, that's a feeling most Gen Ys won’t experience.

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